Now what about the promised honesty, transparency and accountability, punishments by the Conservatives here too of the bad civil and public servants,  RCMP as well.. yes by Jason Kenney, Stockwell Day, Vic Toews, and Stephen Harper.. http://groups.msn.com/CanadaToday4/ourcircus.msnw

One very poor, dismissal political writer tried to write that it was mainly the anti gay vote that was causing Harper to be unpopular in Canada.. a big big untruth, much much over simplification.. for Canada wide many women are also against Harper for the way he treats them too,  and the anti war, pacifists are against Harper too, also many of our Natives are against Harper too, not just the gays. and there are many other groupings that are against Harper, why one day the evangelicals also will wake up and see how they are been abused by Harper and they too likely will turn against him as well.  Yes-

-There is a hardcore 30 percent of the mostly western based population, Albertan based,  that support Harper, the Conservatives.. and many of them likely will be accept that Harper could not deliver his promises to them as well.

-There is a hardcore 30 percent of the mostly eastern based population that definitely support the Liberals only..

-There is a hardcore 30 percent of the mostly Quebec  based population that support the BQ only..

-Then there is the rest that supports NDP, Green Party..

 

and then there is also the undeniable anti Jew voters, the 30 percent of Canadians who had opposed Israel immoral war actions, who account for about 20 percent of the voters in each province

 

and yes with these fixed, definite numbers Harper will never make a majority federal government likely and we will continue to see a minority government likely for a while.

 

Yet still not one of these Political parties has an active  platform that meets the needs, good welfare of all ( Not most- all) Canadians, rich and poor,  and why is that still????

The realties are that Stephen Harper is in a lose/lose position on voting for the legitimacy of gay marriages.. for firstly the outcome will not stop the gays from being gays.

 

Secondly it is an absurd act to even try to vote on the legitimacy of one of God's moral commandment at any time.. for the outcome will not affect God's ALREADY STATED CLEAR VALUES on this subject,  nor cause God to change the commandments, standards.

 

HARPER WOULD BE BETTER OF TO USE HIS PROFESSED EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN BELIEFS TO SET A DAY OF NATIONAL PRAYER TO PRAY FOR THE GAYS TO REPENT, even firstly FOR THEM TO WANT TO REPENT,  AS WELL as all of  the FORNICATORS, ADULTERERS, DIVORCEES. 

(Lev 18:22 KJV)  Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

 

(Lev 18:23 KJV)  Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

 

(Lev 20:16 KJV)  And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

 

(Lev 20:13 KJV)  If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

 

(Lev 20:15 KJV)  And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

 

(Lev 20:12 KJV)  And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them

 

(Exo 22:16 KJV)  And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.

 

(Jer 5:8 KJV)  They were as fed horses in the morning: every one neighed after his neighbour's wife.

 

(Jer 5:9 KJV)  Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

 

(Jer 5:10 KJV)  Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD'S.

(Num 23:19 KJV)  God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

I  personally have no doubts at all rightfully that a real Hell is the final destination of all of the  unrepentant Divorcees, Adulterers, fornicators, gays, liars, thieves, bullies- abusers, alcoholics..

(1 Cor 6:9 KJV)  Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,  10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

 

(Mat 18:3 KJV)  And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

(Lev 19:9 KJV)  And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest. 10  And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God. 11  Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another. 12  And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. 13  Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. 14  Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD. 15  Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. 16  Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD. 17  Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18  Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. 19  Ye shall keep my statutes. .. 20  And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.... 31  Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God....  35  Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure.
36  Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt. 37  Therefore shall ye observe all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: I am the LORD.

Like I have also said before "Many evangelical pastors I dealt with in Canada are sex maniacs.. and that is why they also counsel divorce."

... Toronto pastor faces teen sex rap Toronto Sun -  By JACK BOLAND, TORONTO SUN. A west-end Toronto pastor is facing eight sex-related charges after a 14-year-old girl said she was abused earlier this year.
Pastor faces eight sex charges London Free Press
Pastor charged in sex assaults Toronto Star
680 News - Toronto Daily News - CityNews - WKYC-TV

 

I still can not forget my first personal shock, horrification to discover that a Bible school student room mate was stealing my food, cause he was saving his money to take girls out on a date. I had the opportunity to revaluate the spirituality of many these related Bible students, and the same Calgary Bible school still had mostly no effect on the bad ones, they came out just as bad as they had gone it for the most parts. One reason  was they had too many bad teachers now too.. for the affiliated Bible school Pastors were also stealing and committing adultery...  the Judas crowd

2 Peter 2:3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction is on the way. (New Living Translation)

Men and women are generally equal sinners, and so are the professionals now as well.. Now if a doctor can be punished for having sex with a patient.. why does it equally now not apply to church Pastors.. How many doctors in Canada were punished for sexual offences and how many Pastors, priests, lawyers  now too in the last decade? is it the same percentages too?

 

 Harper and his Conservative Hypocrisy, lies, abuses are really unacceptable..

Tue 24 Oct 2006 Meet the blue boss: same as the red boss. Just like the Liberals, Conservatives are guilty of politicizing committees http://www.ndp.ca/page/4483

Stephen Harper was elected on a pledge to do politics differently than the Liberals did for 13 years. Cabinet would be more accountable, the government was going to listen more, and MPs would have the independence to speak for grassroots Canadians.

However, a former Conservative MP is pulling back the mask to show that Stephen Harper's Ottawa uses the same kind of intimidation tactics on MPs that Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin did before him.

"This government has actually had a PMO senior staffer in national caucus recently instructing MPs on how to politicize the committees and turn them into instruments of government policy. Tory MPs are instructed to meet before committee meetings to plan strategy to help ministers, and to be assigned questions to ask witnesses."
- former Conservative MP, Garth Turner, http://www.garth.ca/weblog/page/2/ , 23 October 2006

If that sounds familiar, here's why:

"Mr. Speaker, the Liberals control every committee of the House because they have a majority on every committee of the House. Guess who huddles with the Liberal majority during breaks at the committee studying the sponsorship program? The Prime Minister's own assistants, that is who, giving Liberal members their marching orders. His personal media spokesperson is out in front of the cameras after committee, giving the media the PM's own spin."
- Conservative MP Diane Ablonczy, Hansard 31 March 2005"

Harper and his Conservative Hypocrisy, lies, abuses  are really unacceptable..

"False RCMP info 'very likely' led to Arar deportation: report Last Updated: Monday, September 18, 2006 CBC News  The U.S. decision to send Maher Arar to Syria was "very likely" based on inaccurate and misleading information from the RCMP, according to an inquiry report released Monday, but there is no evidence Canadian officials played a direct role in his detention or deportation. But Justice Dennis O'Connor, who led the public inquiry into the case, concluded that Canadian officials did leak information to damage Arar's reputation.  O'Connor also concluded that Arar was an innocent victim and was not involved in al-Qaeda activities in any way, as U.S. officials had alleged.   "I am able to say categorically that there is no evidence to indicate that Mr. Arar has committed any offence or that his activities constituted a threat to the security of Canada," wrote the judge. Arar, who then lived in Ottawa, was travelling back to Canada from a family vacation in Tunisia in September 2002 when he was pulled off a plane in New York. Within days, he was sent to Syria, where he says government officials detained him, systematically tortured him and kept him in jail for a year.  RCMP gave U.S. distorted information The judge concluded that RCMP investigators without much experience wrongly gave their U.S. counterparts inaccurate, unfair and overstated evidence about the Syrian-Canadian engineer's alleged terrorist sympathies. "The RCMP provided American authorities with information about Mr. Arar that was inaccurate, portrayed him in an unfairly negative fashion and overstated his importance in the RCMP investigation," O'Connor said at a news conference on Monday. "It is very likely that, in making the decision to detain and remove Mr. Arar to Syria, the U.S. authorities relied on information about Mr. Arar provided by the RCMP," O'Connor concluded. O'Connor said the RCMP asked American authorities to look out for Arar and his wife Monia Mazigh in the U.S. The agency described the couple as "Islamic extremist individuals suspected of being linked to the al-Qaeda terrorist network," according to the report. "The RCMP had no basis for this description," O'Connor said. The judge also criticized the RCMP, which shared information with U.S. authorities, without screening it for relevancy, reliability or privacy concerns. And he accused RCMP officials of giving a sanitized summary of the Arar case to top government officials in order to cover up the RCMP mistake. The judge, who reviewed hundreds of documents about the case, supported Arar's claims that he was tortured during his imprisonment. But O'Connor said reports were prepared by government officials after Arar's release that had the "effect of downplaying the mistreatment or torture to which Mr. Arar had been subjected." He also slammed Canadian officials for leaking "confidential and sometimes inaccurate information about the case to the media for the purpose of damaging Mr. Arar's reputation or protecting their self-interests or government's interests." O'Connor came up with 23 recommendations, including one that states the government should assess Arar's claims for compensation. The public inquiry into the engineer's detention, deportation and alleged torture involved more than 120 days of testimony and cost $15 million by the time it concluded the main phase of its hearings in September 2005. "I wanted to repair my reputation," Arar said following the release of the report. "Today, Judge O'Connor has cleared my reputation. "I ask the prime minister to put these recommendations into effect without delay." PM promises government action Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government does intend to act, but gave no indication of the specific moves it'll make. "Probably in the few weeks to come we'll be able to give you more details on that," he said. Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, who has responsibility for the RCMP, said he's just received the report and needs time to study it. A damage suit filed by Arar against the government was put on hold during the inquiry. Day indicated there's unlikely to be any quick movement on financial compensation. "Certain civil actions have already been commenced by Mr. Arar and really we have to let those lawyers discuss those," he said."

"Never told about RCMP errors on Arar, ex-solicitor general says   Tuesday, October 24, 2006 CBC News  Former solicitor general Wayne Easter said he was never told that the RCMP had provided wrong information to the U.S. about Maher Arar. Speaking before a Commons committee looking into the Arar case, Easter contradicted previous testimony given by RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli.  Former solicitor general Wayne Easter told a Commons committee that he was never told that securiety agencies had labelled Maher Arar as an Islamic extremist. (CBC) Last month, Zaccardelli said he had told the government about the RCMP's actions and mistakes that, according to an inquiry report, "very likely" led the U.S. to deport Arar to Syria, where he was tortured.  "I was not informed by briefing note, by housebook card or by any other measure that the RCMP had provided misinformation," Easter told the committee Tuesday. "I think this is a question you're basically going to have to raise with the commissioner again."    Easter, who was the solicitor general at the time and in charge of the Mounties, said he has gone through all the documents and discussed the matter with people who were on his staff at the time. "There is no situation where the RCMP came to me and basically said 'We screwed up, we provided improper information.' " Easter said he wasn't told that security agencies had labelled the former Ottawa engineer an "Islamic extremist" or that Arar had been placed on a watch list. Easter said he wasn't aware of many of the false allegations against Arar until they were made public during the inquiry by Justice Dennis O'Connor. The committee plans to recall Zaccardelli for more questions. Arar, who then lived in Ottawa, was travelling back to Canada from a family vacation in Tunisia in September 2002 when he was pulled off a plane in New York. Within days, he was sent to Syria, where he says government officials detained him, kept him in jail for a year and systematically tortured him.  "

Look at the facts the top RCMP brass and the RCMP officers both are big unacceptable liars who now need to be punished for it too... so now let us all see it..

On guns - look Down Under On Line opinion, Australia - By Greg Barns - posted Wednesday, 25 October 2006. Stephen Harper is an admirer of fellow conservative leader John Howard. Mr Harper ...

Tories muzzling officials, threatening free speech: opposition 940 News, Canada -  ... Opposition parties are accusing Stephen Harper's self-proclaimed ... as further evidence of a Harper government gag ... "Now this minority Conservative government has ...

Harper defends MacKay as Dog-gate remains open in Commons Macleans, Canada -   ... CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper unswervingly defended ... After Harper's initial riposte, the Tories ... son of former Progressive Conservative cabinet minister ...   and no matter how you look at it the opposition parties are getting great political coverage... and the New Conservatives under the PM Stephen Harper are getting rightfully mostly negative coverage in the Canadian press, and many citizens I talked to are greatly disappointed with the Conservatives.

>"Conservatives Show Contempt for Canadians October 25, 2006

Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay must cease his shameful denials and apologize to Canadians for his sexist slur in the House of Commons, members of the Liberal Women’s Caucus demanded today. “Referring to one of our honourable female Members of Parliament as a ‘dog’ is more proof of his sexist attitude towards women,” said Liberal Status of Women critic Maria Minna. “But this is also symbolic of this government’s disrespect for women. Look at the cuts made to Status of Women and the elimination of the word ‘equality’ from its mandate. This speaks volumes about where women and women’s issues are on this government’s priority list.” Canadians have taken notice that Prime Minister Stephen Harper has allowed Mr. MacKay to thumb his nose to Canadian women for days, and the Prime Minister’s lack of responsible leadership is a wake up call about this government’s contempt for women and all Canadians.

 

This contempt permeates the entire Conservative agenda.

 

Environment Minister Rona Ambrose’s recent disgraceful attempts to twist the truth about third party opinions of her flawed Clean Air Act are yet another example of this government’s disdain for the people of Canada. Today, Liberal Environment Critic John Godfrey plainly denounced Ms. Ambrose’s attempts to deceive the public into thinking her clean air package actually has support as contemptuous of Canadians who expect the full truth from their government. “To salvage her clean air disaster, the Minister of the Environment has been misquoting the Canadian Lung Association,” he said. In fact, what the Lung Association really said was that it “has serious concerns that the proposed approach under the Clean Air Act will not reduce emissions of greenhouse gases quickly enough to lessen the health effects of climate change.” “Misleading the house like this shows this minister’s utter disrespect for Parliament. Why did the Minister of the Environment misrepresent the real position of the Lung Association?” Mr. Godfrey concluded.

 

As Liberal MP Mark Holland pointed out, when this government isn’t twisting the truth, they’re trying to sweep it under the rug.

 

A case in point is the failure of Conservatives to disclose expenses, showing a shameful disregard for Canadian taxpayers. “Yesterday I asked a direct question about why two advisors to the Prime Minister broke the rules and failed to disclose their expenses… The Minister’s response? He hid from the question,” said Mr. Holland. “The Treasury Board President is again ducking the question. Maybe he doesn't understand accountability. So I'll ask his boss. Why did they fail to provide the required proactive disclosures? Why is the minister refusing to answer questions, and when are we finally going to get some answers?”

 

Whether they’re muzzling officials, twisting the facts or hiding the truth from Canadians, the Conservative government’s conduct is simply unacceptable. It is an affront to Parliament, to democracy and to the people of Canada." http://www.liberal.ca/news_e.aspx?type=news&id=11996

 Those lying federal conservative visibly immoral too and hypocritical kettles are now also unacceptably just as black as the black Liberal pots before them.

." PMO officials not required to publicly post cost of Challenger flights: Tories  October 25, 2006 - 6:55 pm  OTTAWA (CP) - Conservatives who once excoriated the Liberals for hiding the cost of the government's "flying limousines" are defending two senior staffers who failed to disclose a flight on the Challenger jet. Ian Brodie, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff, and transition team leader Derek Burney flew to Washington in mid-March to try to jump-start negotiations on the softwood lumber impasse. The secret trip came to light through media investigations about a week later. But no expense record of the excursion was posted by either of the men, despite a Treasury Board policy called Proactive Disclosure that requires all ministers and senior staff to post travel and hospitality expenses quarterly. Treasury Board President John Baird told the Commons on Wednesday the officials paid their own expenses for the one-day excursion. "Paying your own freight is obviously a concept that is unfamiliar to the Liberal party," Baird said in the Commons following questions from the Opposition ranks. Baird dismissed in passing the government flight used by the negotiators. Sandra Buckler, Harper's director of communications, said the cost of Brodie and Burney's Challenger jet flight was billed directly to the Defence Department and can be accessed by the public through Access to Information requests. Buckler denied this in any way flies in the face of "Proactive Disclosure," a policy begun by the previous Liberal government to shine a light on ministerial spending. "It's there, it's in full daylight, no one is hiding anything," said Buckler. The jet is owned by the Defence department, not the Prime Ministers' Office, she said, and DND bills each minister or department for its use "every month or quarter." "Do you think we try to hide from Canadians how much the Challenger costs?" Buckler asked. "It's out there in plain daylight. It's $1,500 an hour." Only a year ago, Jason Kenney, Harper's parliamentary secretary, took the then-Liberal government to task for using the Challenger jets. "We have learned today that the Liberals have been hiding the real cost of their flying limousines from Canadian taxpayers, claiming that the luxury jets cost only $2,000 an hour when in fact these jets cost $11,000 an hour to operate," Kenney said in the Commons on Oct. 4, 2005. "On top of that, Liberal ministers have abused their luxury jets dozens of times, spending over $1 million on unnecessary flights, rather than rubbing shoulders with average Canadians on much cheaper commercial aircraft. "Is all of this not just more proof of the culture of Liberal arrogance and waste?" Liberal MP Mark Holland wonders how the Conservatives can reconcile their campaign "mantra" of transparency and accountability with quarterly disclosures that don't reflect true travel costs. "There's still an obligation to provide a proactive expense report," Holland said in an interview. "What John Baird said in the House today was that this trip was paid of out the pockets of these individuals. That's not true. The government of Canada paid for this, it paid for that Challenger (jet) to take them there." Holland argues that burying government travel expenses behind the Access to Information Act, rather than freely disclosing them on a quarterly basis, is a violation of the Treasury Board policy on proactive disclosure.  And New Democrat Pat Martin said the Conservatives have found another way to keep their activities from public exposure. "We want to know when these trips happen and the only way we can find out really is by following the money and tracking the expenses," he said. "So we have a right to know and it seems to be getting denied by this practice."

 

Like I have said before..

 

 One thing that still really bothers me much also is the past Conservative cry put us into office and we will show you what we will do.. and so far is has not been any different.. the Conservatives still do not act decently, respectable especially even in the House of Commons never mind elsewhere..  and If they act like it, smell like it too they must be Rotten.. and so much for the promised personal accountability now as well ehhhh.

" Remember those too typical pre-election Conservative Politicians lying words  even about holding now real people in the civil and public services, governments  accountable now for their wrong doings.. well how many new persons have been prosecuted, held accountable since the last federal election? how many??  Please do list them all by name.. again how many?? How many RCMP managers too? none? and how can they hold hypocritically others accountable when they the Conservatives will not hold themselves still accountable? well Stephen Harper, Stockwell Day, Vic Toews, and Jason Kenney?

 

Conservative accountability appears to be  camouflaged absurdity ."Tory cabinet frugality raises questions about who's paying for what: ethicist   OTTAWA (CP) - Labour Minister Jean-Pierre Blackburn was as surprised as anyone to learn that, according to publicly posted accounts, he hadn't spent a dime on hospitality this past summer.  "I'm a minister who has to travel many times in different regions in Quebec, it's part of my responsibility," Blackburn said when asked about his latest quarterly "Proactive Disclosure" of expenses. "I don't know why (nothing was filed). I'm surprised at you telling me that."  Blackburn's office later said it had missed the Sept. 30 reporting deadline, and would add some hospitality receipts to his next quarterly report.
 
When a minister's lone hospitality claim over three months is a $16.99 grocery bill for a party to celebrate the work of 15 ministerial staff, or $44.31 for "refreshments" for 14 people, the public has every right to be skeptical, according to Arthur Schafer, director of the Centre for Professional and Applied Ethics at the University of Manitoba "We have a government that was elected partly, perhaps in large measure, on a platform of integrity in government and openness and disclosure,"  "But in practice, not just with respect to expense accounts but in all sorts of ways, it appears to be earning the label 'control freaks' and 'non-disclosure experts.' "  For a government that preaches accountability, there appears to be no common reporting practice, making the disclosures difficult to assess. Schafer likens the most frugal reports to doctored scientific results.  "If the person paying is someone from the private sector who is seeking favours, then we're approaching issues of corruption or conflict of interest," he said. But more fundamentally, proactive disclosure of expenses was designed to curb lavish spending through routine exposure, not drive legitimate government business underground, said Schafer. "If their expenses are honest and reasonable, they should put them on their own tab, they should reveal them to the public and they should explain why they're legitimate and reasonable. And no one could fault them. "That doesn't appear to be what's going on here."

 

Let's get a more honest government and a more honest cabinet ministers now..

 

Gomery 'Disappointed' Government Hasn't Acted on Report  Tuesday, October 24, 2006  Justice John Gomery says the Federal Accountability Act hasn't resolved several of the problems that were highlighted in his report into the Federal Sponsorship Scandal.  Nearly one year since he filed his reports, Gomery says he's disappointed the new Conservative government has not enacted several of his recommendations.  Gomery made 19 recommendations to prevent a repeat of problems raised during the public inquiry.  The recommendations included giving more power to MP's on the public accounts committee and preventing political interference into decisions by bureaucrats. Justice John Gomery says the sponsorship inquiry recommendations have fallen into a "black hole" because the Conservatives have not acted on any of them.

Gomery filed two reports, one nearly a year ago and the other in February. The second contained 18 recommendations and a request that the government produce a report on the implementation of the recommendations within two years."I don't think anybody has heard anything about those recommendations. They seemed to have dropped into something of a black hole in Ottawa," Gomery said. Gomery said his request for a report on implementation did not mean that the government should do nothing for two years.

More Charges Likely in Sponsorship Scandal: Lawyer  The Chief Counsel for the Gomery Commission suggests five people connected to the sponsorship scandal are likely to face criminal charges.  Bernard Roy says there is plenty of evidence from the inquiry to justify charges.  Roy questioned witnesses at Justice John Gomery's probe into the federal sponsorship program.  Roy pointed out that the evidence collected by the Gomery inquiry can't be used as evidence in a criminal trial. While the Gomery commission report could guide investigators, they had to start from scratch collecting witness statements and evidence.

Now what about the promised honesty, transparency and accountability, punishments by the Conservatives here too of the bad civil and public servants,  RCMP, and hired or elected Conservatives as well.. yes by Jason Kenney, Stockwell Day, Vic Toews, and Stephen Harper.. 

Those lying federal conservative atre still visibly immoral too and hypocritical kettles are now also unacceptably just as black as the black Liberal pots before them.  Also Undeniable and simple - the Conservatives are clearly unfriendly to Natives, women, liberals, multicultural persons in Canada and clearly that is another reasons they fail to attract the voters in the major big cities of Montreal, Toronto, etc.. None of this abuse is acceptable or to be taken lightly.. none of it.

 

Also "They're trying to act like they have a majority and they're not going through all the courtesy protocols that are necessary to make a minority work," Pat Martin said. "We're not seeing that generosity of spirit from the Tories and they're paying the price. Their Parliament is being nipped in the bud."

 

I will continue to repeat it that Blaming it on the opposition just won't do Stephen Harper  PM of a Minority government you should always now try to act like it, pleasing the opposition parties in the process. Many citizens  do agree  it is irresponsible for Mr. Harper to demand solely his own ways  now ..  for  Stephen Harper  PM of a Minority government   cannot be naive, stubborn and act like a self righteous conservative and now wrongfully expect to have it all his way...   Stephen Harper   PM of a Minority government wake up..  act in a humble manner Mr. Harper Conservatives.One thing that still really bothers me much also is the past Conservative cry put us into office and we will show you what we will do.. and so far it has been poor, unimpressive and it really  has not been any different.. they  the too often bad, lying, hypocritical Conservatives are not taking the job seriously, are not taking the opportunity of doing good for all the citizens of Canada, they the too often bad, lying, hypocritical Conservatives show us instead how they are just as bad as the other politicians before them, and that is really unacceptable for these big liars too...  and they the too often bad, lying, hypocritical Conservatives  try now instead to point out what the Liberals supposedly have done.   (Mat 7:3 KJV)  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?5   Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

 

"Opposition parties blame Tories for parliamentary logjam  OTTAWA (CP) - A bizarre filibuster and a strategically placed olive branch marked a parliamentary battle Thursday over who's to blame for a legislative logjam.  Opposition parties accused the minority Conservative government of intentionally paralyzing Parliament as one legislative committee after another stalled. The highlight was a spectacle unprecedented in recent memory - a government MP filibustering to block an Opposition bill.  The Conservatives ran out the clock at an environment committee meeting as a Tory MP spoke for two straight hours on an arcane procedural point. The move stalled opposition members trying to push forward a private member's bill that would force the government to respect the Kyoto accord on greenhouse gases.   The government was accused of similar tactics to keep opposition members from taking over the industry and House affairs committees.  The Tories have passed almost no legislation since taking office in February and they blame the opposition for holding things up.   Prime Minister Stephen Harper accused the opposition Thursday of being "anti-democratic" - even as the Liberals offered an olive branch by agreeing to pass more than half of Harper's proposed tough-on-crime bills.  Liberal Leader Bill Graham bridled at the accusation:  "If the prime minister wants to find the problem with his legislative agenda has he tried to take a look in his own mirror?," Graham told the House of Commons.  "Will the prime minister drop his pre-electoral posturing and start acting like a party and a prime minister that acts for all Canadians?"  Harper has also accused the Liberal-dominated Senate of delaying the federal accountability act by proposing a raft of amendments. But Graham noted that Conservative senators proposed 42 of their own amendments.  Under the Liberal proposal Thursday, six pieces of crime legislation the Tories want approved would get speedy passage through the Commons. The Liberals said that would leave plenty of time to study and debate another five bills that are seen by the Opposition as more contentious.  Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe said the Tories are worse in government than the Liberals because they're not only arrogant, but incompetent as well.  "I would say they're paralyzing themselves," Duceppe told a news conference.  "(Stephen) Harper was telling us - Jack and I - at the time we were in opposition that the Liberals were arrogant in not speaking to us.  "He's doing worse than them. And since they have almost no experience in the House, they're worse than the Liberals in the procedures because they're acting like amateurs."  NDP Leader Jack Layton also blamed Harper.  "He has an arrogant and controlling attitude to his caucus, to the media, to the Canadian public, and also to the representatives (in opposition) of a majority of the Canadian people.   "This is why we're seeing a logjam in the House of Commons. There is no desire on the part of his government to work with other parties."  He suggested it's about time for an election to solve the deadlock.  Harper has repeatedly referred to the tactics of the Liberal-dominated Senate in recent days, drawing speculation he is preparing to fight an election on Liberal efforts to thwart accountability.  But there was no question who did the stalling Thursday at the Commons environment committee.  Saskatchewan Tory MP Tom Lukiwski delivered a 120-minute monologue on alleged procedural transgressions by the committee as it prepared to debate a Liberal bill on Kyoto - one supported by all opposition parties and the vast majority of MPs.  Opposition MPs didn't even pretend to listen to Lukiwski who, under the Commons rules on points of order, was allowed to carry on at will.  Their eyes glazed over. They joked amongst themselves. And they muttered their complaints about Lukiwski's filibustering performance.  "It was a historic performance, yes," said Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez, author of the Kyoto bill. "But it's one they should be ashamed of - not proud." "

Opposition gutting tough-on-crime legislation: Harper CBC North, Canada - Prime Minister Stephen Harper accused the opposition of being ... I think it's irresponsible," Harper said ... elected politicians, not just the Conservative party, to ...

 

Hey you folks please wake up. all of you.. .. Stephen Harper is PM of a Minority government and he should always now try to act like it, pleasing the opposition parties in the process. Many citizens  do agree  it is irresponsible for Mr. Harper to demand solely his own ways  now ..  for he Stephen Harper  PM of a Minority government  and he cannot be naive, stubborn and act like a self righteous conservative and now wrongfully expect to have it all his way... for he Stephen Harper   PM of a Minority government certainly will not get support for this, not from all of the political parties, and certainly not from most of the citizens.. for only 30 percent of the citizens support the Harper Conservative government, and the rest definitely are not about to change on this too... so Stephen Harper   PM of a Minority government wake up..  act in a humble manner Mr. Harper Conservatives.

"No one to Blame but Themselves October 26, 2006 Prime Minister Stephen Harper needs to stop blaming others and take responsibility for his government’s stalled agenda, including its failure to pass justice legislation, the Liberal Opposition said today.  “Yesterday, from high in his ivory tower, the Prime Minister was insulted that the opposition did its work and asked questions about defective bills,” said Opposition Leader Bill Graham. “Perhaps he should remember that Canadians gave 60% of the seats here to the opposition.   “There's something that's not right here. Two years ago, Mr. Harper said that it is Parliament that should manage the country and not just necessarily the party in power. If the Prime Minister wants to know why there's a problem with his legislative agenda, maybe he should try taking a look in the mirror.”  The Conservatives have excelled at the blame game, preferring to fault Liberals for all of their problems instead of taking ownership to solve them. Mr. Harper’s most recent lament is that Liberals are stalling his government’s justice legislation –a puzzling accusation in light of the fact that the Liberal justice plan proposes speedy passage of six of the 11 bills before the House this afternoon, including laws to protect our children from sexual predators, control outrageous interest rates on payday loans, restrict conditional sentences and update criminal procedure.  Liberal House Leader Ralph Goodale pointed out that by working constructively with other political parties to improve legislation, the Liberal Party is living up to its responsibilities as Canada’s Official Opposition.   "By swiftly passing the legislation that we can support, we are delivering the sound, principled opposition we promised at the beginning of this Parliament," said Mr. Goodale.  Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez pointed out that despite all the government’s bluster, the Conservatives have been the ones resorting to obstructionist tactics.   “This morning, Conservative members of the Environment Committee today filibustered a Liberal Bill that mandates the government to report on Canada’s progress towards our Kyoto targets. As a result, study on this bill has been delayed by the government,” said Mr. Rodriguez.   “This Prime Minister tries to act as if he has a majority mandate, but as soon as the opposition holds him to account, the Conservative members act like spoiled children. They sulk.”   “It’s ironic that the only filibuster in this minority Parliament has been a government filibuster,” added Mr. Goodale.  Unlike other opposition parties, Liberals don’t believe in rubber stamping legislation that will hurt our most vulnerable citizens. That is why we are working hard in this minority Parliament to ensure that new legislation benefits all Canadians –not just the ones who vote Conservative.  Instead of playing the blame game, the Harper government needs to quit the bravado and start taking responsibility for their actions.   After all, isn’t that what accountability is all about? " Liberal Press release ..

 

Two thirds of Canadians do not support this Minority government. Furthermore  Harper's Minority government has refused to consult with the opposition  on its own priorities, and also has lied to them in daily question period sessions, plus Harper's Minority government has failed to exercise a functional understanding of Parliament's procedures. And what did Stephen  Harper expect in an Minority government. He firstly still just needed to look at all the other past federal Minority governments and see also there how they needed to  realistically cooperate with opposition parties, to get things done and survive. " Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe said Thursday that House leader Michel Gauthier, the Bloc MP responsible for communicating with the government on upcoming legislation, has been shut out by the Tories.  He said Gauthier used to talk to his counterpart under Jean Chretien four times each day and four times each month under Paul Martin's Liberal government. "With them," he said of the Conservatives, "it's four times a year. It doesn't work like that. They're amateurs when it comes to working in the House of Commons."

 

Look I have openly many time's have said that Stephen Harper is a loser, he is one step forwards and two steps backward, and if this new Conservative Party had any decency, common sense they would have already replaced him as their leader. In the real world this rookie would have been fired and replaced a long time ago. Blaming it on the opposition just won't do  They are clearly now doing their job well